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	<description>&#039;Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two edged sword in their hand.&#039; Psalm 149:6</description>
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		<title>Comment on the poor widow and prosperity gospel by northpointcc</title>
		<link>http://honest2blog.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/the-poor-widow-and-prosperity-gospel/#comment-6141</link>
		<dc:creator>northpointcc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My heart was broken as I watched. I fully believe in God&#039;s faithfulness and the need for our obedience but I don&#039;t see in Scripture that Jesus promised any of His disciples prosperity. Thanks for sharing. It is a good reminder of the importance of proclaiming the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My heart was broken as I watched. I fully believe in God&#8217;s faithfulness and the need for our obedience but I don&#8217;t see in Scripture that Jesus promised any of His disciples prosperity. Thanks for sharing. It is a good reminder of the importance of proclaiming the truth.</p>
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		<title>Comment on the poor widow and prosperity gospel by Rick Dugan</title>
		<link>http://honest2blog.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/the-poor-widow-and-prosperity-gospel/#comment-6140</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Dugan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prosperity gospel is a false hope, which is why its so dangerous. Hope is only beneficial when grounded in truth, when hope is an illusion its a dangerous lie.  I posted the video on my Facebook page as well and its getting some really good discussion from my African friends here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prosperity gospel is a false hope, which is why its so dangerous. Hope is only beneficial when grounded in truth, when hope is an illusion its a dangerous lie.  I posted the video on my Facebook page as well and its getting some really good discussion from my African friends here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on the poor widow and prosperity gospel by mjjhoskin</title>
		<link>http://honest2blog.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/the-poor-widow-and-prosperity-gospel/#comment-6139</link>
		<dc:creator>mjjhoskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose my query is: Is the Prosperity Gospel actually true?  This is different from all the soundbites in the video about how it gives hope to people.  True hope is based in truth.  If it is true that by fully relying on God He will not only provide but I will prosper physically, mentally, emotionally, and economically, then the Prosperity Gospel gives actual hope.  It strikes me, however, that the truth is really that if I fully rely on God, He will provide for me.  Full stop.  I may not prosper, but I will survive.

Also, I thought that it was weird to see an altar call offering.  Imports from America always look different in another culture!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose my query is: Is the Prosperity Gospel actually true?  This is different from all the soundbites in the video about how it gives hope to people.  True hope is based in truth.  If it is true that by fully relying on God He will not only provide but I will prosper physically, mentally, emotionally, and economically, then the Prosperity Gospel gives actual hope.  It strikes me, however, that the truth is really that if I fully rely on God, He will provide for me.  Full stop.  I may not prosper, but I will survive.</p>
<p>Also, I thought that it was weird to see an altar call offering.  Imports from America always look different in another culture!</p>
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		<title>Comment on About Nicosia International Church by ELIAS SERAFIM DOS REIS</title>
		<link>http://honest2blog.wordpress.com/about-nicosia-international-church/#comment-6136</link>
		<dc:creator>ELIAS SERAFIM DOS REIS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gostaria de saber.

Essa é a Igreja do Irmão Eli Soriano (Filipinas)?

Bom,o que eu quero dizer é que devemos pregar o Evangélio do equilibrio, ou seja, Deus cura (faz milagres ainda)dá-nos prosperidade financeira, cura restaura familia etc...
isto para nos levar a primeira finalidade, A SALVAÇÃO.
Os SINAIS seguirão aqueles que crêr. Equanto a Igreja verdadeira estiver na Terra estes sinais estarão, não pdemos omitir nada. Não podemos ao contestar aqueles que visam a prosperidade, inclusive de si mesmo, omitir que Deus salva e faz milagres em nossas vidas, na vida de nossos familiares e de todas aqueles que buscarem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gostaria de saber.</p>
<p>Essa é a Igreja do Irmão Eli Soriano (Filipinas)?</p>
<p>Bom,o que eu quero dizer é que devemos pregar o Evangélio do equilibrio, ou seja, Deus cura (faz milagres ainda)dá-nos prosperidade financeira, cura restaura familia etc&#8230;<br />
isto para nos levar a primeira finalidade, A SALVAÇÃO.<br />
Os SINAIS seguirão aqueles que crêr. Equanto a Igreja verdadeira estiver na Terra estes sinais estarão, não pdemos omitir nada. Não podemos ao contestar aqueles que visam a prosperidade, inclusive de si mesmo, omitir que Deus salva e faz milagres em nossas vidas, na vida de nossos familiares e de todas aqueles que buscarem</p>
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		<title>Comment on will globalization make ministers redundant? by Jonathan E. Brickman</title>
		<link>http://honest2blog.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/will-globalization-make-ministers-redundan/#comment-6135</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan E. Brickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that church history can be useful.  It is certainly through Spirit-led recollections of church history, both recent and ancient, that I receive many repentances.

It is equally true, I think, that the current situation contains shocking changes from all others.  I recently an article which is very apropos:

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/23/AR2009102303674.html?hpid=sec-religion&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/23/AR2009102303674.html?hpid=sec-religion&lt;/A&gt;

From it, two question have arisen in my thoughts:

1.  What can we introduce into churches, to make them more powerful than 60-inch television sets?  I suggest that if we are honest in our contemplation, we will find a great many churches are far weaker.  Indeed, it is a terrible thing to say; I suggest it is far more a terrible thing which those churches are, according to certain chapters of Holy Scripture.

2.  What can we do, to encourage preachers to be willing to more easily risk their jobs, in order to serve the Gospel?  

Question #2 has an obvious answer in church history, still being played out in a very few places, including the local church my wife and I work in.  When issues of our pastor&#039;s job come up, he always responds in one simple way:  &quot;I work for the bishop, not the church.&quot;  The church cannot fire him, and he will be given a job elsewhere if his people rebel sufficiently.  In church history (and church present) there is much abuse of this, but perhaps we need to think about rebuilding this with an interdenominational, careful, and holy approach.

There are many answers to question #1.  One of them is approaches to preaching.  Anyone familiar with a certain Mr. Craddock?  He has had much useful to say on the topic, and there is some video of his work in action on YouTube.

J.E.B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that church history can be useful.  It is certainly through Spirit-led recollections of church history, both recent and ancient, that I receive many repentances.</p>
<p>It is equally true, I think, that the current situation contains shocking changes from all others.  I recently an article which is very apropos:</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/23/AR2009102303674.html?hpid=sec-religion" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/23/AR2009102303674.html?hpid=sec-religion</a></p>
<p>From it, two question have arisen in my thoughts:</p>
<p>1.  What can we introduce into churches, to make them more powerful than 60-inch television sets?  I suggest that if we are honest in our contemplation, we will find a great many churches are far weaker.  Indeed, it is a terrible thing to say; I suggest it is far more a terrible thing which those churches are, according to certain chapters of Holy Scripture.</p>
<p>2.  What can we do, to encourage preachers to be willing to more easily risk their jobs, in order to serve the Gospel?  </p>
<p>Question #2 has an obvious answer in church history, still being played out in a very few places, including the local church my wife and I work in.  When issues of our pastor&#8217;s job come up, he always responds in one simple way:  &#8220;I work for the bishop, not the church.&#8221;  The church cannot fire him, and he will be given a job elsewhere if his people rebel sufficiently.  In church history (and church present) there is much abuse of this, but perhaps we need to think about rebuilding this with an interdenominational, careful, and holy approach.</p>
<p>There are many answers to question #1.  One of them is approaches to preaching.  Anyone familiar with a certain Mr. Craddock?  He has had much useful to say on the topic, and there is some video of his work in action on YouTube.</p>
<p>J.E.B.</p>
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		<title>Comment on will globalization make ministers redundant? by Rick Dugan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Dugan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 04:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wrote a response, but it vanished. In summary, though, there&#039;s value in studying both how the early Christians lived and how God was working. In fact, there&#039;s value in studying these things during all periods of Christian history.

A few years ago I posted some thoughts on urban legends of the early church in response to my frustration with all the deconstruction going on in contemporary Christianity.  The desire is to have a more pure ecclesiology, but the focus is often on imitating structure, rather than learning from the early church faithfulness, piety, and obedience. Here&#039;s the link: http://honest2blog.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/urban-legends-of-church-history/

Good discussion, guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wrote a response, but it vanished. In summary, though, there&#8217;s value in studying both how the early Christians lived and how God was working. In fact, there&#8217;s value in studying these things during all periods of Christian history.</p>
<p>A few years ago I posted some thoughts on urban legends of the early church in response to my frustration with all the deconstruction going on in contemporary Christianity.  The desire is to have a more pure ecclesiology, but the focus is often on imitating structure, rather than learning from the early church faithfulness, piety, and obedience. Here&#8217;s the link: <a href="http://honest2blog.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/urban-legends-of-church-history/" rel="nofollow">http://honest2blog.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/urban-legends-of-church-history/</a></p>
<p>Good discussion, guys.</p>
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		<title>Comment on will globalization make ministers redundant? by mjjhoskin</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjjhoskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s make that &quot;most&quot; then.

I guess you&#039;re just ... a rarity, not unChristian, Jonathan.

However, regardless of whether or not the Early Church is to be normative, my point still stands:  We should, with prayer and discernment, seek to make their strengths our strengths.  If there were things they got right, perhaps we should consider adapting those same ideas and actions to our current situation.  This is the use of Church History, besides helping to keep us from becoming ungrounded and rootless, attempting to reinvent the Church every 10 to 100 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s make that &#8220;most&#8221; then.</p>
<p>I guess you&#8217;re just &#8230; a rarity, not unChristian, Jonathan.</p>
<p>However, regardless of whether or not the Early Church is to be normative, my point still stands:  We should, with prayer and discernment, seek to make their strengths our strengths.  If there were things they got right, perhaps we should consider adapting those same ideas and actions to our current situation.  This is the use of Church History, besides helping to keep us from becoming ungrounded and rootless, attempting to reinvent the Church every 10 to 100 years.</p>
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		<title>Comment on will globalization make ministers redundant? by Jonathan E. Brickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan E. Brickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...all Christians believe that aspects of the Church in those incipient ages of belief and mission should be normative to our belief and mission over 1000 years later&quot;?  Do you call me unChristian?  I certainly do not believe that aspects of the Church in those incipient ages of belief and mission should be normative to our belief and mission today.  I believe in exactly one normativity:  the things the Lord has Personally described as such.  And He has Personally described both the churches then, and the churches now, with great accuracy.

J.E.B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;all Christians believe that aspects of the Church in those incipient ages of belief and mission should be normative to our belief and mission over 1000 years later&#8221;?  Do you call me unChristian?  I certainly do not believe that aspects of the Church in those incipient ages of belief and mission should be normative to our belief and mission today.  I believe in exactly one normativity:  the things the Lord has Personally described as such.  And He has Personally described both the churches then, and the churches now, with great accuracy.</p>
<p>J.E.B.</p>
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		<title>Comment on will globalization make ministers redundant? by mjjhoskin</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjjhoskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur that the Church of the Apostolic and sub-Apostolic Age was messed up and is messed up today.  However, at some level, all Christians believe that aspects of the Church in those incipient ages of belief and mission should be normative to our belief and mission over 1000 years later.

Therefore, what strengths did they possess in the midst of it all?  What was the Grace of God doing through them to grow His Church?  If we examine their strengths while acknowledging their weaknesses, we can learn from the example of the early Christians and grow more fully into the likeness of Christ.

This is one of the great uses of all Church History, especially that of the patristic age (up to c. AD 500).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur that the Church of the Apostolic and sub-Apostolic Age was messed up and is messed up today.  However, at some level, all Christians believe that aspects of the Church in those incipient ages of belief and mission should be normative to our belief and mission over 1000 years later.</p>
<p>Therefore, what strengths did they possess in the midst of it all?  What was the Grace of God doing through them to grow His Church?  If we examine their strengths while acknowledging their weaknesses, we can learn from the example of the early Christians and grow more fully into the likeness of Christ.</p>
<p>This is one of the great uses of all Church History, especially that of the patristic age (up to c. AD 500).</p>
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		<title>Comment on will globalization make ministers redundant? by Jonathan E. Brickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan E. Brickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I wouldn&#039;t call it &quot;something&#039;s missing&quot;.  I think that although mention of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in preaching is important, specific description (&quot;how it looks&quot;) cannot be dominant, because of the confusion and division caused by said description.  After all, the Holy Spirit within, is God Himself within, and it is wrong for us to claim to know what God Himself always looks like.

J.E.B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I wouldn&#8217;t call it &#8220;something&#8217;s missing&#8221;.  I think that although mention of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in preaching is important, specific description (&#8220;how it looks&#8221;) cannot be dominant, because of the confusion and division caused by said description.  After all, the Holy Spirit within, is God Himself within, and it is wrong for us to claim to know what God Himself always looks like.</p>
<p>J.E.B.</p>
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